

And the key to The Watcher's words here being "in your world": The second is another testimony though The Watcher's is more credible. I was referring to the first quote I posted being the Watcher's. Shuma Gorath, Dormammu, Living Tribunal would all disagree. Strange is far from the most powerful magic user. I counted two hits and Doom was down then left knowing he couldn't win. He had instruction and knowledge Strange gave him. So, no he didn't.Īnd Dormammu easier than he generally does. In Strange's earliest years of his early career before he received numerous permanent amps, he defeated Nightmare with basic illusions in a single comic. And that was one of the most simple examples you could have used.Īlso Voodoo's not really inferior to Strange and handled Nightmare People have even tried escaping from him via that method but Strange was right there waiting for them (it's a simple thing for him no matter how many galaxies or dimensions away a person is). The other thing is a sneak attack on an aware Strange doesn't work. Like when he sent Mordo through time/space and dimensions in such a way and pace that he couldn't get any bearings to stop himself let alone find a way to return (Mordo had to be pulled back from a third party). There are many ways to make it effective on someone who knows what Doom does. He has done as much to people far more adept at traveling dimensions.

But even in that gap between it still required special circumstances/context for it.Īnd his counter to your bfr comment is missing two important details. He never had any chance against classic Strange, nor his more recent return to form. And as I mentioned to him before, that was the modern Strange you hear people talk about being a shell of his former self, heck Strange eventually even referenced as much in the comics. So while Strange was distracted by a large number of minor demons Doom hit him with a cheap shot from behind. But he was amped by three high level demons who even after, told Doom he couldn't face Strange directly. It's true that Doom once captured Strange. He talked about it in another thread but didn't get the context.
